how to replace characters from an bor game to another?
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maxman
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behnam, I use that style too. 
I know Beastie likes SNK/KOF style due to the original BOR game, but for myself, I like Capcom/CVS style more (due to inspiration of playing CVS2). I gotta say I like CVS better. (I need to go back to learn spriting KOF style again.)
Speaking of character palettes, all sprites need to have the same color palette so that the colors don't mess up for characters. IF sprites have different color palettes from each other, colors will clash into a mess. Just to let you know how palettes go. What I do with the sprite pack is that I open one picture of a character sprite. I don't know what photoshop software you're using but I use GIMP. In GIMP, I go to Windows, Dockable Dialogs, and then Layers, for opening a layer window. You see the picture I opened is already a layer. Next I drag all the frames (e.g. Ken) from the folder to the same layer and put them there for making a palette. For example, if you have all Ryu sprites as layers instead of opened windows, you will see that Ryu has 16 color palettes are there including the background color right after you indexed to convert. That's what I do for sprite packs, but spritesheet is a different story. You will want to cut around the character sprites. What I do with character spritesheets is that I can use a program called Alfred Spritesheet Unpacker for picking sprites to cut or combine (I can't remember if I've done exporting yet). I use a sprite sheet as a palette (but needs to get indexed for all sprites per character) and if you want to apply palettes, you need to use PalApply which helps you apply color palettes for any entity.
EDIT: I forgot to mention about using Canvas size like Kong's ripping style for cropped characters, but it's optional to use canvas for characters for making uniform alignment.
I know Beastie likes SNK/KOF style due to the original BOR game, but for myself, I like Capcom/CVS style more (due to inspiration of playing CVS2). I gotta say I like CVS better. (I need to go back to learn spriting KOF style again.)Speaking of character palettes, all sprites need to have the same color palette so that the colors don't mess up for characters. IF sprites have different color palettes from each other, colors will clash into a mess. Just to let you know how palettes go. What I do with the sprite pack is that I open one picture of a character sprite. I don't know what photoshop software you're using but I use GIMP. In GIMP, I go to Windows, Dockable Dialogs, and then Layers, for opening a layer window. You see the picture I opened is already a layer. Next I drag all the frames (e.g. Ken) from the folder to the same layer and put them there for making a palette. For example, if you have all Ryu sprites as layers instead of opened windows, you will see that Ryu has 16 color palettes are there including the background color right after you indexed to convert. That's what I do for sprite packs, but spritesheet is a different story. You will want to cut around the character sprites. What I do with character spritesheets is that I can use a program called Alfred Spritesheet Unpacker for picking sprites to cut or combine (I can't remember if I've done exporting yet). I use a sprite sheet as a palette (but needs to get indexed for all sprites per character) and if you want to apply palettes, you need to use PalApply which helps you apply color palettes for any entity.
EDIT: I forgot to mention about using Canvas size like Kong's ripping style for cropped characters, but it's optional to use canvas for characters for making uniform alignment.
aL BeasTie
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@benham - check your PM's - I sent you a mini-mod with ryu sprites. When I have more time I'll process the other chars sprites.
If you have problem with coding just ask here.
maxman can hopefully answer because knows better than me about making the various things for street fighter style chars.
EDIT: BTW It's the CVS2 ones I got for - this style
If you have problem with coding just ask here.
maxman can hopefully answer because knows better than me about making the various things for street fighter style chars.
EDIT: BTW It's the CVS2 ones I got for - this style
aL BeasTie
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Actually I'll put the link here too so if needed maxman or others can download it to help. 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/06amdme2t20mi01/STREET_FIGHTER.7z?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/06amdme2t20mi01/STREET_FIGHTER.7z?dl=0
maxman
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There seems to be a problem with tapping attack button repeatedly which causes a crash. You need to use atchain 1 in the header if you have only anim attack1 so that you can do only one attack. But without using atchain, you HAVE to include anim attack, anim attack2, and anim attack3, for doing default combos. With atchain, you can use any anim attack as you want and create an attack combo for your fighter. Also, the number with atchain represents anim attack numbers. For example, if you have anim attack, anim attack2, anim attack3, and anim attack4, meaning you have 4 anim attacks with numbers, you can input your combo in atchain like this.
3 combo attacks
Or...
4 combo attacks
If you like to do more than 5 combo attacks, you need to create some new attack animations and include combostyle in the header. However the 4 anim attacks I told you are default. So, to have some more attack animations, you need to include maxattacks with a desired maximum number limit for your attack animations in models.txt. For instance, if you want to include 10 attack animations as your max, you can make up to 10 attack anims or less if you want.
This is where maxattacks is input with a desired max number in models.txt here as example:
Going back to combostyle, if it's 0, then the maximum attacks is 5. If it's 1, then the max for combo attacks is 12.
Look at these:
Look at Guy's and Linn's. They have 5 combo attacks, so it's up to you if you want to include combostyle 0 or not. If not, it will be the same as putting combostyle 0. Now, look at Ax's combo. He's got 9 attacks in there. "How come I see some 0's there?" I think that must be the cancelling the first combo attacks for executing the second combo attacks. If you play Mr. Q's Art of Fighting mod, you will see how the players fight with cancelling combos.
Look at Ryo's:
Robert's:
I checked with 'time' and it's not understood because there's no such thing as 'time' for OpenBOR which I checked the log, but I don't know why it doesn't crash for it. settime is for setting a timer, and putting 0 will not let the time play. Setting to 1 for settime is stupid to and it's not considered funny at all because what if you start the game in one second and you die? You see what I mean? I'm just letting you know how it works.
EDIT: If you put atchain 1 0, it can crash because there is no combo execution. Only one attack is what you can do if that atchain has only 1. What's the use of using 0 at the last when there is only one attack? I'm letting you know just in case it happens.
Code:
atchain 1 2 33 combo attacks
Or...
4 combo attacks
Code:
atchain 4 2 1 3If you like to do more than 5 combo attacks, you need to create some new attack animations and include combostyle in the header. However the 4 anim attacks I told you are default. So, to have some more attack animations, you need to include maxattacks with a desired maximum number limit for your attack animations in models.txt. For instance, if you want to include 10 attack animations as your max, you can make up to 10 attack anims or less if you want.
This is where maxattacks is input with a desired max number in models.txt here as example:
Code:
maxattacks 10Going back to combostyle, if it's 0, then the maximum attacks is 5. If it's 1, then the max for combo attacks is 12.
Look at these:
Look at Guy's and Linn's. They have 5 combo attacks, so it's up to you if you want to include combostyle 0 or not. If not, it will be the same as putting combostyle 0. Now, look at Ax's combo. He's got 9 attacks in there. "How come I see some 0's there?" I think that must be the cancelling the first combo attacks for executing the second combo attacks. If you play Mr. Q's Art of Fighting mod, you will see how the players fight with cancelling combos.
Look at Ryo's:
Code:
atchain 1 1 2 3 4 0 5 6 7Robert's:
Code:
atchain 1 1 2 3 4 0 5 6 7 0I checked with 'time' and it's not understood because there's no such thing as 'time' for OpenBOR which I checked the log, but I don't know why it doesn't crash for it. settime is for setting a timer, and putting 0 will not let the time play. Setting to 1 for settime is stupid to and it's not considered funny at all because what if you start the game in one second and you die? You see what I mean?
I'm just letting you know how it works.
Code:
Total Ram: 4168376320 Bytes
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Used Ram: 3633152 Bytes
debug:nativeWidth, nativeHeight, bpp, Hz 1366, 768, 24, 60
0 joystick(s) found!
OpenBoR v3.0 Build 4153, Compile Date: Apr 22 2015
Game Selected: ./Paks/MOD.PAK
FileCaching System Init...... Disabled
Initializing video............
Reading video settings from 'data/video.txt'.
Initialized video............. 480x272 (Mode: 1, Depth: 32 Bit)
Loading menu.txt............. Done!
Loading fonts................ 1 2 3 4 Done!
Timer init................... Done!
Initialize Sound..............
Warning: can't play sound at 44100 Hz!
Loading sprites.............. Done!
Loading level order.......... Done!
Loading model constants...... Done!
Loading script settings...... Done!
Loading scripts.............. Done!
Loading models...............
Cacheing 'Flash' from data/chars/misc/flash.txt
Cacheing 'Ryu' from data/chars/ryu/ryu.txt
Cacheing 'none' from data/chars/misc/none.txt
Loading 'Flash' from data/chars/misc/flash.txt
Loading 'Ryu' from data/chars/ryu/ryu.txt
Loading 'none' from data/chars/misc/none.txt
Loading models............... Done!
Object engine init........... Done!
Input init................... No Joystick(s) Found!
Done!
Create blending tables....... Done!
Save settings so far........ Done!
Can't play music file 'data/music/remix'
Can't play music file 'data/music/remix'
Can't play music file 'data/music/remix'
Can't play music file 'data/music/menu'
Can't play music file 'data/music/remix'
Level Loading: 'data/levels/test.txt'
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Used Ram: 38027264 Bytes
Command 'time' not understood in file 'data/levels/test.txt'!
Level Loaded: 'data/levels/test.txt'
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Used Ram: 38162432 Bytes
Total sprites mapped: 42EDIT: If you put atchain 1 0, it can crash because there is no combo execution. Only one attack is what you can do if that atchain has only 1. What's the use of using 0 at the last when there is only one attack? I'm letting you know just in case it happens.
aL BeasTie
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I just wanted to send him the sprites, I didn't have time to set it all up for him. I wanted him to do it himself
I didn't want to add atchain 1 and get him confused him later.
And some stuff I copied from another mod real quick and they probably had the time set wrong
I didn't want to add atchain 1 and get him confused him later.
And some stuff I copied from another mod real quick and they probably had the time set wrong
thanks friends i see what can i do !!!BeasTie said:I just wanted to send him the sprites, I didn't have time to set it all up for him. I wanted him to do it himself
I didn't want to add atchain 1 and get him confused him later.
And some stuff I copied from another mod real quick and they probably had the time set wrong
i just download it but i can't extract it.it cause error and cant extract to see what it is.i think the link is broken .behnam said:thanks friends i see what can i do !!!BeasTie said:I just wanted to send him the sprites, I didn't have time to set it all up for him. I wanted him to do it himself
I didn't want to add atchain 1 and get him confused him later.
And some stuff I copied from another mod real quick and they probably had the time set wrong
maxman
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BeasTie said:I just wanted to send him the sprites, I didn't have time to set it all up for him. I wanted him to do it himself
I didn't want to add atchain 1 and get him confused him later.
And some stuff I copied from another mod real quick and they probably had the time set wrong
Ohhhhhh..... I see now. I couldn't tell who made it though.
I meant to help but I guess I was too quick or early to post feedback. :-[
aL BeasTie
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@benham
You'll need 7-zip to extract it.
http://www.7-zip.org/
Or try downloading it again.
@maxman - btw utunnels updated it so we can just use 'ATCHAIN 0' for non combat chars.
You'll need 7-zip to extract it.
http://www.7-zip.org/
Or try downloading it again.
@maxman - btw utunnels updated it so we can just use 'ATCHAIN 0' for non combat chars.
i can open it know thanks.BeasTie said:
1-when i push attack button rapidly the game crashed.why and what can i do for fix?
2-i use to another anim attack but it didn't work.why and what should i do for create another animaition such attacks-run-jump or other for character.
3-how should i create an enemy for test.
is any c like programming or coding for this anims or just do in txt is OK?like the samples?
thanks.
aL BeasTie
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I PM'd you already to answer, but everything you asked is covered in the manual
maxman
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benham, read my post here. I explained about how to use atchain.
http://www.chronocrash.com/forum/index.php?topic=2270.msg30617#msg30617
Example for putting the atchain in the header:
It doesn't have to be too long though. Try to download the Neo Edit Pack in the downloads and the OpenBOR manual.
Example for inputting maxattacks in Models.txt:
BeasTie said:
Really? Can it work for players too?
aL BeasTie
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@benham - I sent you PM, but just ask here instead of PM me or things will get answered twice.
here is my txt now but like the past ryu just do one punch.BeasTie said:
name Ryu
type player
health 100
mp 100
speed 9
gfxshadow 1
atchain 1 1 2 2 3
icon data/chars/ryu/icon.png 1
palette data/chars/ryu/idle00.png
anim attack1
loop 0
offset 120 176 #USE THIS OFFSET FOR ALL ANIMS
delay 4
frame data/chars/ryu/341.png
frame data/chars/ryu/342.png
frame data/chars/ryu/343.png
frame data/chars/ryu/344.png
frame data/chars/ryu/345.png
frame data/chars/ryu/346.png
anim attack2
loop 0
offset 120 176
delay 4
frame data/chars/ryu/347.png
frame data/chars/ryu/348.png
frame data/chars/ryu/349.png
frame data/chars/ryu/350.png
frame data/chars/ryu/351.png
frame data/chars/ryu/352.png
frame data/chars/ryu/353.png
frame data/chars/ryu/354.png
frame data/chars/ryu/355.png
anim attack3
loop 0
offset 120 176
delay 4
frame data/chars/ryu/356.png
frame data/chars/ryu/357.png
frame data/chars/ryu/358.png
frame data/chars/ryu/359.png
frame data/chars/ryu/360.png
frame data/chars/ryu/361.png
frame data/chars/ryu/362.png
anim idle
loop 1
offset 120 176
delay 10
frame data/chars/ryu/idle00.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle01.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle02.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle03.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle04.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle05.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle06.png
anim walk
loop 1
offset 120 176
delay 10
frame data/chars/ryu/walk00.png
frame data/chars/ryu/walk01.png
frame data/chars/ryu/walk02.png
frame data/chars/ryu/walk03.png
frame data/chars/ryu/walk04.png
frame data/chars/ryu/walk05.png
anim waiting #ANIMATION IN SELECT SCREEN
loop 1
offset 120 176
delay 10
frame data/chars/ryu/idle00.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle01.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle02.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle03.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle04.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle05.png
frame data/chars/ryu/idle06.png
anim select #ANIMATION IN SELECT SCREEN
loop 0
offset 120 176
frame data/chars/ryu/select00.png
frame data/chars/ryu/select01.png
frame data/chars/ryu/select02.png
frame data/chars/ryu/select03.png
frame data/chars/ryu/select04.png
frame data/chars/ryu/select05.png
frame data/chars/ryu/select06.png
also befor this txt my atchain is atchain 1 2 3 but did not work.
and here my model txt
# Required objects. These must always be loaded.
maxattacks 3
load Flash data/chars/misc/flash.txt
# Players must also be loaded.
load Ryu data/chars/ryu/ryu.txt
load none data/chars/misc/none.txt #FAKE ENEMY TO MAKE TEST LEVEL
aL BeasTie
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@maxman - yeah it does, so you can make 'jumping only' style platform chars for example. Or just disable it for whatever reason.
@benham
it's in the manual below atchain
@benham
it's in the manual below atchain
Code:
combostyle {bi}
~Controls how 'atchain' works.
0 = (Default) Static combo system
1 = Dynamic combo system
2 = Free combo system
~With 'combostyle 1', various attack chain can be set with this command. For instance, 'atchain 1 2 5 0 3 3 6 0 4 0' have 3 kinds of attack chain in it.
~The attack chains are selected by 'range' specified in respective attack (excluding ATTACK1). In above example, if ATTACK2 can't reach target, attack chain will switch to ATTACK3. If the latter hits, the attack chain becomes '1 3 3 6'. If the latter misses, attack chain will switch to ATTACK4.
~With 'combostyle 2', attack chain will be performed even if none of the attacks connects (Streets of Rage 3 style)maxman
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The default number for maxattacks is 4. There's no need to decrease the default number. Using 3 for maxattacks is pointless. Max means high. There's no reason to put limit value of 3 for maxattacks. 4 and higher is better, but 3, there shouldn't be lower maxattacks like that. It's like putting maxattacks 1.
EDIT: Dang! I didn't know there's combostyle 2 for the header.
EDIT2: I advise you not to use maxattacks 3 and lower. It's not good for use. Also, if you're using 3 anim attacks, there's no need to use maxattacks unless you need anim attack4 and so on with attack animations with values.
EDIT3: I apologize for not mentioning the real default for maxattacks and I should've told you earlier that the default of maxattacks is 4. Also, if you use 3 anim attacks or less, there's no need to use it in models.txt at all. I forgot to mention it (earlier). If you like to go with more attack animations like up to 8 from 4, for instance, yes, you can use it in models.txt.
EDIT: Dang! I didn't know there's combostyle 2 for the header.
EDIT2: I advise you not to use maxattacks 3 and lower. It's not good for use. Also, if you're using 3 anim attacks, there's no need to use maxattacks unless you need anim attack4 and so on with attack animations with values.
EDIT3: I apologize for not mentioning the real default for maxattacks and I should've told you earlier that the default of maxattacks is 4. Also, if you use 3 anim attacks or less, there's no need to use it in models.txt at all. I forgot to mention it (earlier). If you like to go with more attack animations like up to 8 from 4, for instance, yes, you can use it in models.txt.
hey guys.have some question
in the pack you send me i can't edit something new just can edit what it is.like i can add new enemy and character just can edit the one you beast tie send me as none.when i put some spirit in misc folder and add anime in none txt it work but when change the names like enemy name and txt name(i change the names in all model txt and etc...) the game crashed.
first i want to know why i can't create any character or new enemy.
2-i want to know how make enemy being hit and can hit?
3-some complete advise for creating enemy and actions that i can make an test for my mod.
4-about bbox and offset i want to know how can i calculate them and get them from?
thanks.
in the pack you send me i can't edit something new just can edit what it is.like i can add new enemy and character just can edit the one you beast tie send me as none.when i put some spirit in misc folder and add anime in none txt it work but when change the names like enemy name and txt name(i change the names in all model txt and etc...) the game crashed.
first i want to know why i can't create any character or new enemy.
2-i want to know how make enemy being hit and can hit?
3-some complete advise for creating enemy and actions that i can make an test for my mod.
4-about bbox and offset i want to know how can i calculate them and get them from?
thanks.
aL BeasTie
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You're not reading the information we've linked. 
#1 - are you adding them to MODELS.TXT ?
#2 - read the manual
#3 - ???
#4 - Use openborstats, I linked you this before too.
http://www.chronocrash.com/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item66
#1 - are you adding them to MODELS.TXT ?
#2 - read the manual
#3 - ???
#4 - Use openborstats, I linked you this before too.
http://www.chronocrash.com/forum/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item66