In Progress A Tale of Vengeance Ver. 2.0
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The project is currently under development.
AlexDC22
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here added to the list of things to do xD
thats not including levels i have o still go though and make better.. but am about to start level 8.. so not to far
thanks for the advice DC.
thats not including levels i have o still go though and make better.. but am about to start level 8.. so not to far
thanks for the advice DC.
Code:
WIP:
get rid of the towel sling throws and add real grappling animation.
need to add new boss battle after geese.
check player getting juggled , jugglepoints 0 and jugglecost 100. and antigravity.
fix all level perspectives with shadows and assets.
populate level 5-1 and level 7-1 (new levels)
add anim follow to enemy attacks so theyre not just attacking air smfh.
fix sound fx to stop playing on hit and change some hit sounds...only rugal and ryu have some of them done.
All cut scenes including intro, and level titles with correct spellings xD... unsure on which way ill do the cut scenes yet tho.
victory animations but cant get them to work smfh.
Pause menu guide, this has been a pain so am leaving it for last.
Possible extra characters for when vengeance party mode is unlocked with story integration. also itegrate unlocked characters from first game mode into story from the beginning.
DONE==Thinking of new lifebars to accommodate a 3 player mode
DONE==Looking at different font styles.
Want to be able to tell what color am choosing when i die and chose to continue, as it is the icons are only mapped to main character color,
probably an easy fix, just haven't looked into it yet.
am sure more will come to me as i keep at this, so much in my head... but making them work is a different story tho lol
O Ilusionista
Captain 100K
If I can give you an advice, listen to @DCurrent tip. The sooner you start to make the core mechanics of the scripted grab, the better.
For example, take a look at my (unfinished) tutorial - my method requires you to make some required frames first (8 frames) + 2 animations : [TUTORIAL] Ilu's custom scripted Slam method
If you do this early in development, you will save you a lot of time and future headache, as you build the core stuff first so you can copy to there other characters and enemies.
I made PDC way before I've developed that tutorial and when I returned to that project to apply it, it was a tedious work.
So the sooner you do it, the better, trust us
And once you built the core foundation of the scripted slam, the sky is your limit. You can do pretty much any type of slam you need
Take a look at this short video - Hercules does all those throws with just 2 animations (I have a third on just to be the cherry on the cake, but I simply reuse the frames of the precious animations)
AlexDC22
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oh but i do listen to the bor wizards xD i try to anyways.. but yeah that was rather sick brother.....am working on a bkg animation now and after that am jumping on on this...ive been gone a long time so i do trust you guys more than you know... and i appreciate all the feedback and tips and anything really that you folks suggest would yield better resultsIf I can give you an advice, listen to @DCurrent tip. The sooner you start to make the core mechanics of the scripted grab, the better.
For example, take a look at my (unfinished) tutorial - my method requires you to make some required frames first (8 frames) + 2 animations : [TUTORIAL] Ilu's custom scripted Slam method
If you do this early in development, you will save you a lot of time and future headache, as you build the core stuff first so you can copy to there other characters and enemies.
I made PDC way before I've developed that tutorial and when I returned to that project to apply it, it was a tedious work.
So the sooner you do it, the better, trust us
And once you built the core foundation of the scripted slam, the sky is your limit. You can do pretty much any type of slam you need
Take a look at this short video - Hercules does all those throws with just 2 animations (I have a third on just to be the cherry on the cake, but I simply reuse the frames of the precious animations)
for real thank you will dive into it next
AlexDC22
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that animation didnt pan out cus my analality kicked in >_>
am diving in... but if a lot of grey hair start to pop up am holding @O Ilusionista and @DCurrent responsible
but first i need some food xD
am diving in... but if a lot of grey hair start to pop up am holding @O Ilusionista and @DCurrent responsible
but first i need some food xD
AlexDC22
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@O Ilusionista sorry to tag you, but where can i ask questions about this? i ask cus i dont want to take a post spot since the tutorial is not done... and i have some questions sadly 
so i have max 4 to 5 fall sprites for most characters.. theyre standard ones i guess... in the tutorial youre making them do a 360... but i am confused as to which of the sprites as they seem to be mostly1 sprite (fall01 on here?)
being rotated into multiple angles.
am just confused as to which sprotes and i know it sounds stupid but i realy am confused sadly :/
example him, he has 5 sprites.. unsure if all these are missing more sprites to their fall animation as i havent redownloaded many characters since i was leaving gameplay stuff for last.
i get the rotating of the sprites and how the offset has to work by actually going by the feet/ middle/ and head of the characters unlike regular offset settings.
anyways id appreciate as to how to proceed from here on out and where to ask questions without buggin the heck out of anyone
thanks
so i have max 4 to 5 fall sprites for most characters.. theyre standard ones i guess... in the tutorial youre making them do a 360... but i am confused as to which of the sprites as they seem to be mostly1 sprite (fall01 on here?)
being rotated into multiple angles.am just confused as to which sprotes and i know it sounds stupid but i realy am confused sadly :/
example him, he has 5 sprites.. unsure if all these are missing more sprites to their fall animation as i havent redownloaded many characters since i was leaving gameplay stuff for last.
i get the rotating of the sprites and how the offset has to work by actually going by the feet/ middle/ and head of the characters unlike regular offset settings.
anyways id appreciate as to how to proceed from here on out and where to ask questions without buggin the heck out of anyone
thanks
@O Ilusionista sorry to tag you, but where can i ask questions about this? i ask cus i dont want to take a post spot since the tutorial is not done... and i have some questions sadly
so i have max 4 to 5 fall sprites for most characters.. theyre standard ones i guess... in the tutorial youre making them do a 360... but i am confused as to which of the sprites as they seem to be mostly1 sprite (fall01 on here?)View attachment 9195View attachment 9196View attachment 9197View attachment 9198View attachment 9199 being rotated into multiple angles.
am just confused as to which sprotes and i know it sounds stupid but i realy am confused sadly :/
example him, he has 5 sprites.. unsure if all these are missing more sprites to their fall animation as i havent redownloaded many characters since i was leaving gameplay stuff for last.
i get the rotating of the sprites and how the offset has to work by actually going by the feet/ middle/ and head of the characters unlike regular offset settings.
anyways id appreciate as to how to proceed from here on out and where to ask questions without buggin the heck out of anyone
thanks
You can usually get away with using the sprites you have and just flipping them around to make the new ones you need for a 360' range. That's what the pros do. It's pretty rare to draw drawn custom sprites for being thrown unless it's for really special cases, like Blue Mary's bone breaks or the complex wresting moves in Aggressors of Dark Kombat.
For example, just flipping this one would make a reasonable sprite for the overhead stages of a throw:
Also, while you don't have to know this, it sometimes helps to conceptualize. Throws in OpenBOR (most engines actually) are a lot like real life Pro Wrestling shows. The "victim" is actually doing most of the work. Entities don't bind other entities to themselves. They bind themselves to other entities (and if you think about it, this is logical way for it to work). The script basically tells the guy getting thrown "bind yourself to this position in relation to the guy throwing you, and put yourself in this pose".
HTH,
DC
AlexDC22
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so to simplify things for a minute if i may... the tut says 8 sprites but it can be more but preferably not less correct?
also since lets say settle on 9 sprites.. like maybe 3 for each section of the offset.. feet/mid/head?
and sorry i hate to bother asking a lot..not my style, but lately these past few years ive come to grips with reality... am a geezer lol... anyways and after this sprite gathering ive no where to go as the tut is not finished... again apologies for the many ??? and thank you
EDIT: also am not used to tagging folks cus i dont want to be a burden, so i dont know when and when not to tag specially staff members.
also since lets say settle on 9 sprites.. like maybe 3 for each section of the offset.. feet/mid/head?
and sorry i hate to bother asking a lot..not my style, but lately these past few years ive come to grips with reality... am a geezer lol... anyways and after this sprite gathering ive no where to go as the tut is not finished... again apologies for the many ??? and thank you
EDIT: also am not used to tagging folks cus i dont want to be a burden, so i dont know when and when not to tag specially staff members.
You got it!
That's just a question of how far you're willing to go work wise.
Tagging is a GOOD thing. Don't hesitate. On the rest, I'll need to post more later, about to head out the door for some training.
DC
AlexDC22
Well-known member
You got it!
That's just a question of how far you're willing to go work wise.
Tagging is a GOOD thing. Don't hesitate. On the rest, I'll need to post more later, about to head out the door for some training.
DC
thanks brother and yes am willing, just have to get the hang of it and or know how to set them up...as soon as i get one ready then the rest will be a cakewalk..kinda ike when kratus showed me the trick for enemies to block..as soon as i got one set i quickly did the rest..same with the jumpframe and its dust animations xd... thank you again and be safe with your trainingYou got it!
That's just a question of how far you're willing to go work wise.
Tagging is a GOOD thing. Don't hesitate. On the rest, I'll need to post more later, about to head out the door for some training.
DC
maxman
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Beautiful select screen, Alex. Great work.
You take a look at this which I guided @Grit with what sprites to use, but also, you can create a visual concept by putting which sprites you want for both throwers and targets to interact together. Throw and get thrown.
By the way, you don't really have to use drawmethod for rotating sprites on some frames to the slams. It's just my own take which I will remove it later. (Otherwise, I wouldn't.) Having some of those sprites flipped for getting thrown is better.
I have a tutorial file which somebody made this tutorial for slams and throws, but some of the info are missing. I don't know if you want it since some parts of info are missing.
You take a look at this which I guided @Grit with what sprites to use, but also, you can create a visual concept by putting which sprites you want for both throwers and targets to interact together. Throw and get thrown.
By the way, you don't really have to use drawmethod for rotating sprites on some frames to the slams. It's just my own take which I will remove it later. (Otherwise, I wouldn't.) Having some of those sprites flipped for getting thrown is better.
I have a tutorial file which somebody made this tutorial for slams and throws, but some of the info are missing. I don't know if you want it since some parts of info are missing.
AlexDC22
Well-known member
thank you brother... ill take any help i can get i dont discriminate against help xDBeautiful select screen, Alex. Great work.
You take a look at this which I guided @Grit with what sprites to use, but also, you can create a visual concept by putting which sprites you want for both throwers and targets to interact together. Throw and get thrown.
By the way, you don't really have to use drawmethod for rotating sprites on some frames to the slams. It's just my own take which I will remove it later. (Otherwise, I wouldn't.) Having some of those sprites flipped for getting thrown is better.
I have a tutorial file which somebody made this tutorial for slams and throws, but some of the info are missing. I don't know if you want it since some parts of info are missing.
as long as it doesnt confuse more and is along the same lines then hell yeah
and thank you about the select screen.. its all due thanks to bloodbane and his magical script lol
also i since redid the select screen ill post another video soon...this one might be it but i tend to go through a few iterations cus yeah.. am picky af lol
AlexDC22
Well-known member
kinda interested in this part "I do 90% of the throws using only ONE animation." lolIf I can give you an advice, listen to @DCurrent tip. The sooner you start to make the core mechanics of the scripted grab, the better.
For example, take a look at my (unfinished) tutorial - my method requires you to make some required frames first (8 frames) + 2 animations : [TUTORIAL] Ilu's custom scripted Slam method
If you do this early in development, you will save you a lot of time and future headache, as you build the core stuff first so you can copy to there other characters and enemies.
I made PDC way before I've developed that tutorial and when I returned to that project to apply it, it was a tedious work.
So the sooner you do it, the better, trust us
And once you built the core foundation of the scripted slam, the sky is your limit. You can do pretty much any type of slam you need
Take a look at this short video - Hercules does all those throws with just 2 animations (I have a third on just to be the cherry on the cake, but I simply reuse the frames of the precious animations)
grabbed he game and i know or i think i know that the scripts needed are in grabscript_complete.c, but unsure as to which ones besides the
slamstart and slamstart2...
after that is it different than what maxman posted on the link that he helped grit with?
sorry for the many questions, but that 90% with only one animation just sounds to good lol
that and i dont want to get confused if they are different and since your tut is not finished... but i still want to do whats best even if its a bit harder.. i just need to get at least 1 done and the rest should fall into place for the most part i believe... thanks
maxman
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It's the same slamstart function. The only difference is a given knockdown value which he put here.
Example:
slamstart ---> grab first with anim grab before performing slamstart with different animation
slamstart2 ---> just grab it
C:
void slamstart(int iDrop)
{ // Slam Starter
// Use finish after using this
void self = getlocalvar("self");
void target = getlocalvar("Target" + self);
if(target==NULL())
{
target = getentityproperty(self, "grabbing");
setlocalvar("Target" + self, target);
}
if(target!=NULL())
{
damageentity(target, self, 0, iDrop, openborconstant("ATK_NORMAL7")); // Slam Starter
}
}Example:
Code:
anim grabforward
loop 0
delay 20
offset 68 96
fastattack 1
@script
if(frame==5)
{
int SFX1 = loadsample("data/chars/captain/at2.wav");
int SFX2 = loadsample("data/chars/captain/at3.wav");
void vSelf = getlocalvar("self");
int r = rand()%30;
if(r > 0){
playsample(SFX1, 0, 120, 120, 100, 0);
}
if(r <= 0){
playsample(SFX2, 0, 120, 120, 100, 0);
}
}
@end_script
@cmd slamstart 1
@cmd position 0 20 0 -1 0
sound data/sounds/grab.wav
frame data/chars/captain/bgrab1.gif
delay 8
@cmd position 0 0 0 1 0
frame data/chars/captain/bgrab2.gif
@cmd position 0 -10 0 1 1
frame data/chars/captain/bgrab2.gif
@cmd position 5 -7 48 -1 0
frame data/chars/captain/bgrab3.gif
delay 8
@cmd position 7 0 63 -1 0
frame data/chars/captain/grab06.gif
@cmd position 10 10 50 -1 0
@cmd depost 0
@cmd throw 25 2 6 0.5 0 0
frame data/chars/captain/grab07.gif
delay 30
@cmd clearL
frame data/chars/captain/bgrab5.gifI'm not sure what you mean by "90% of the throws in one animation" but look at this in fall7 animation. I put the slammed/thrown/get-hit ones in one fall animation, more than 8 frames. The last frames are not done in mine since it needs work too, though some parts for some specific characters are done.
Code:
anim fall7 #thrown
delay 1000
#=======RYU==========
#--------Initial throw
offset 30 93
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0500000010.gif #0 - pain1-2
offset 31 89
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000010.gif #1 - pain2-1
#------Punch or forward throw---------
offset 80 85
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000010.gif #2
offset 19 81
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000120.gif #3
offset 21 78
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000040.gif #4
#------Kick or back throw---------------
offset 23 80
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000020.gif #5
#-----Tossed-----------------
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0503100010.gif #6
offset 38 43
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0504000020.gif #7
#======KEN======
offset 97 25
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000020.gif #8
offset 30 25
frame data/chars/ryu/0503200020.gif #9
offset 26 50
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000120.gif #10
#=====CHUN-LI=====
offset 43 81
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0500000020.gif #11
offset 44 60
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000000.gif #12
#----------------
offset 25 95
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0500000000.gif #13
offset 43 97
bbox 11 10 60 90
frame data/chars/ryu/0500000020.gif #14 - have this bbox in just only one
#=====ZANGIEF=====
#---Atomic Buster
offset 31 80
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000000.gif #15
offset 31 90
frame data/chars/ryu/zangi00.gif #16
offset 22 84
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000050.gif #17
#=====DHALSIM=====
#======JOE======
#=====GUILE=====
#=====BOXER=====
#=====CLAW=====
#=====SAGAT======
#=====DICTATOR=====
offset 20 79
bbox 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000030.gif
offset 14 83
frame data/chars/ryu/0501000120.gif
offset 44 84
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000000.gif
offset 43 36
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000020.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000040.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0503000050.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0504000000.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0504000020.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0504000021.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0504000030.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0504100010.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0506000000.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000000.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000001.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000002.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000010.gif
frame data/chars/ryu/0507000020.gifslamstart ---> grab first with anim grab before performing slamstart with different animation
slamstart2 ---> just grab it
AlexDC22
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that 90% is his claim to fame in his unfinished tutorial xD
i am confused about the anim fall 7?do we need the rest in between? and why the other fighters names there? thanks
ok gotta get me some sprites and start the trial of Alex The Broken mhuahahaha...dont mock my game of thrones name
maxman
Well-known member
Example:
Code:
anim grabattack
offset 140 188
delay 10
attack 155 122 34 36 8 0 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/121_1.png
anim grabattack2
offset 140 188
delay 6
bbox 124 90 46 98
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_0.png
bbox 124 115 46 73
move 3
delay 3
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_1.png
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_1.png
bbox 123 107 47 80
delay 6
move 0
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_2.png
bbox 128 90 42 98
attack 155 64 38 66 11 1 0 0 0 0
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_3.png
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_4.png
attack 0
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_5.png
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_6.png
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/93_8.png
anim grabbackward
offset 140 188
delay 9
flipframe 0
@cmd anti
@cmd slamstart
@cmd position 0 -28 31 0 1
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_1.png
@cmd position 1 -8 67 0 1
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_2.png
@cmd position 2 4 64 0 1
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_3.png
@cmd depost 0
@cmd throw 10 1 3 2.2 0 -1 #throw {damage}{type} {x} {y} {z} {direction}
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_4.png
anim grabforward
offset 140 188
#delay 4
#@cmd anti
#attackone 1
#frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_1.png
delay 16
@cmd slamstart
@cmd position 0 -28 31 0 1
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_1.png
@cmd position 1 -8 67 0 1
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_2.png
@cmd position 2 4 52 0 1
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_3.png
@cmd depost 0
@cmd throw 10 1 3 2.2 0 -1 #throw {damage}{type} {x} {y} {z} {direction}
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/209_4.png
anim grab
offset 140 188
delay 24
cancel 0 0 0 a2 freespecial18 #H
frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/131_4.png
#frame data/chars/heroes/KOF_2K3_Terry_Sprite.7z/131_5.pngAlexDC22
Well-known member
so grab just to grab and thats used with grabforward... now backwards i dont understand the non grab state stuff..now ryu has his regular over shoulder throw and also his backwards leg toss... am i to assume that the toss is for the backwards?
i have to go through that again cus i have no clue what any of those @cmd do lol and where to place them, just like the enemy stuff..gonna be a long ride :/
thanks
